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Ski Jumping and Nordic Combined
Scoring for the novice.
       
             

My neighbor's son is a ski jumper and nordic combined competitor. Nordic combined includes 2 events, ski jumping and a cross country ski race. It was Alaska's turn to host this portion of the Junior Olympics this year (2009) and my neighbor decided to be the overall event organizer and my wife and I volunteered to help.

He asked me to be the 'chief of calculations', since I'm good at math. Having never seen a ski jumping event other than on TV and thus, having no idea what I was getting myself in for, I agreed. I was given a 5 year old rule book and left to my own devices. I searched the internet for a hint of software, finding only one product which seemed inadequate to me. So, I wrote my own, which before the event I thought was quite complete. I know better now.

We had a total of 38 Jumpers and I haven't been that frazzled in a long time. The chief of calculations is a high stress job. Each jump must have a minimum of 6 numbers recorded for it and calculations to arrive at an overall score done between rounds to determine the order of the next round.

 

So, here's a bit of help for the next sucker volunteer to get the job.

   Download my scoring program, updated 2 March 2012

bugs fixed after JumpFest 2012
 
             
Events I was involved with:









Official Training




 

Just what it sounds like, training for the officials. The jumpers jump 3 times, The Chief of the Competition makes sure that everyone knows his job and is doing it right, if not, the jumps are stopped until it is straightened out.

In this event the style judges do produce their results and they are recorded by the chief of calculations, but the final report only shows the distance of the jumps for each competitor, nothing else.

Panic #1- My software could not handle this yet.

     
             
Special Jumping          
 

This is standard ski jumping. It is a 3 jump/jumper event. The first is a practice jump, nothing gets recorded.

This will be the biggest section because it explains 90% of what goes on in any of the events.

The first jump order is determined by a random draw at this level of competition. As I understand it at the higher levels, it is determined by their relative national or world ranking, with the best jumpers going last. But, the random draw works like this-the coaches divide their jumpers into 4 groups (seed groups), with their best jumpers in group 4 and the weakest in group 1. A random draw is done on group 1 and bibs 1 to whatever are assigned, then group 2 is done. Group 4 or the best jumpers have the highest bib numbers and will go last.

My software handled this just fine. A start order list is printed and distributed, lots of people up and down the hill need this.

Jump 1 is recorded, at a minimum, distance and the style points from all five style judges. At our event the style judges used a card that they could record 5 jumps on. After 5 jumps, they passed the cards back, we checked them for math errors and input the results along with the distance recorded from the distance judge down the hill. Distance was measured to 1/2 meter precision. Radios were used for this. A minimum of 3 people are required for this. One to continually record the distances as the distance judge radios it in, one to read the distance and style results aloud to the one actually typing them into the computer.

After the first round of jumping the points are computed (or computed as the jumps are input) and the competitors are sorted into reverse order for the second round. The worst jump from round one goes first.

My software handled this just fine.

However, they also need to check the results, since a distance written down wrong affects the score and hence the start order. The official distance sheet is retrieved from the distance judge down the hill and compared with the distances recorded in the software. The style point totals are also quickly checked. Any errors are fixed and the Jump 2 start order is printed up and distributed.

Jump 2 round is recorded and checked just like round round 1. Now the results need to be printed. Everyone wants to see it right away.

Panic #2- I didn't have a clue what the results needed to look like and I messed it up. Here's an example of the minimum required.

  • Event Name and date
  • Chief of Competition
  • Technical Delegate
  • the 5 style judges and their affiliation

The Chief of Competition (CofC) and the Technical Delegate (TD) have to sign the results sheet.

That's one event done!

on to Nordic Combined

 

You have to know the K-Point of your jumping hill. It is a mathematically derived number based on the geometry of the hill. Someone at your club knows this number. Ours was 64meters. If a jumper hits 64 meters on our hill his distance score is 60. For every meter further they get another 2.4 points. For every meter short 2.4 points is subtracted. This value can go negative, but the overall score can only drop to zero. The points per meter value is determined by the K-point of the hill.

2009 USSA rule book states
20-24 m = 4.8pts/m
25-29 m = 4.4pts/m
30-34 m = 4.0pts/m
35-39 m = 3.6pts/m
40-49 m = 3.2pts/m
50-59 m = 2.8pts/m
60-69 m = 2.4pts/m
70-79 m = 2.2pts/m
80-99 m = 2.0pts/m
100 m + = 1.8pts/m
170 m + = 1.2pts/m

 
       
   

Style Judging:
Maximum of 20 total pts w deductions in 3 areas

  • flight
  • landing
  • outrun

Most kids scored in the 15-17.5 range.

If you can handle it the individual deduction points are available for input as a math check or for coaches information. It is not required and there was no way we could have done it. My advice is to not even attempt it at this level of competition, it is not required.