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Ski Jumping and Nordic Combined
Scoring for the novice.

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  Nordic Combined          

One thing that confused me up until the week before the competition was that I didn't realize that they seem to always use one set of jumps for two events. The results from Special Jumping are used for the jumping portion of the Nordic Combined.

Panic #3- I had to kludge my way around this. My software used certain tags to tell the program what calculations had to be done for each event. If I set the event up as Special Jumping, it won't let me calculate or input anything related to Nordic Combined. So, at the end of the Jumping portion, I copied the entire database (right click, copy, right click paste, real tough) and then used a stand alone database editing program to tweak those tags so it now looked like a Nordic Combined event to my program. Problem solved. If I further develop my software I will allow it to handle multiple events within one set of data, without having to duplicate the database for the second event.

Major Panic #4 - My out of date rules book states that Nordic Combined (NC) is composed of 2 jumps and a cross country race, ours was 5km. The 2009 USSA book states the same thing. I was assured many times by our CofC that was in error, that the FIS rules now mandated a single jump and the XC race. The night before the event I was told the same thing. The morning of the event I was told that he was over ruled and it was in fact a 2 jump event. So, all my calculations were based on a single jump being recorded. I had to edit the source code to even allow the second jump to be added to the competitors total. And, I had no time to check the math on the time delay calculations. After the jumping portion, I quickly ran the calculations and they were wrong. I had to find an older version of the source code where I'd done the 2 jump stuff correctly and splice it in. It worked! I emailed the XC start list to the timing guy running the race and headed to the race course.

They change bibs for the race, the bibs are issued in the order they take off. So, the best jumper gets bib #1 etc. With the time delay accounting for the differences in the jump scores, the overall event standings is the order they cross the finish line.

In our case, we have a world class XC organization up here, they run World Cup and national events and our piddly little race was no challenge to them. They did all the timing and generated a spreadsheet of the end times for us.

Here's an example of the minimum results for this event.

Panic #5- My software could produce 2 reports that gave all the required information, but not a unified one with everything needed.

That night, I edited the source code once again to add in a export feature on the reports so that I could dump it into Excel. Using Excel's and cut and paste and summing feature. I moved thing around and got it accomplished. Once again the data is there in my software, I just didn't know the details that needed to be in the report.


On to Team Events



If the jumping is held first, which I think it almost always is, then the XC race is a 'Gundersen' start. This is a time delay start. The best jumper goes at time 0 and everyone else is delayed based on their jump performance. If they are 15 points behind the leader then they are delayed one minute. They call that 15 points per minute or invert it to 4 seconds per point. These values are different for team events.

If the XC race is held first, it is a mass start event and points are assigned based on their finish times. Then the jumping event is judged on distance only, no style judging and the two point scores, XC and jumping are added together to get the overall winner.